Thanks for connecting some dots. I haven’t been paying attention,TBH. Tate is an abomination, and there is no excuse for any Christian to support a pimp like him. This is not complicated.
"Imagine what would happen if, instead of denouncing Harvey Weinstein, we saw leading pundits saying, “No, he’s just really misunderstood and persecuted. He’s really innocent. He’s being targeted because the elite don’t like the truth he speaks. Would we tolerate that on the right? Of course we wouldn’t. And honestly, I still have to believe that the average conservative reader is completely appalled by the Tates’ behavior."
Here's the thing...they had to know Weinstein WAS a scoundrel. It was an open secret in Hollywood, lefty media, and political circles. The Dems fawned all over him. Meryl Streep called him "basically God." All the major Dems like Hillary Clinton and the Obamas gushed over him too...I can't think they didn't know he was a monster.
What's WORSE though is that Tate is openly awful, it's NOT a secret of any sort, and it's the most mind-blowing thing to read ANY of those quotes that have emerged from his mouth and not think WTF? I think you're right about "normie" conservatives thinking he's a scumbag, but I'm beyond irritated because he says some things that scratches a certain itch conservatives have, they just choose to ignore or excuse the other stuff he says, all of which is abusive garbage.
Thank you for this writing down into the bones of this, Kaely Triller. You put clear words to where many have been since tate-bro (so-far) legal immunity has been teflon-ing 'em. Feels like their flagrant defiance of pedophilia laws is another wheat-from-chaff / winnowing moment for all Christians, all people of good heartedness, all people whose souls are still alive. Another pull-back-the-curtain moment—if they're not nailed and jailed for their blatant pimp recruitment, then all the world's corrupt kings will be revealed as their accomplices. Seems the tatebros are Epstein spawn; online recruiters of the porn-sick.
I wonder if because the right also can lead to weird places that do not value women (some reformed spaces and other complementarian no woman lands etc.) there is a strange overlap? I agree with you that young men have been left in the cold…… what does the future hold?
YES! We're in a gender war. The "Reformed Theology" and "Complementarians" who say they represent God try to keep women "in their place," making the church weak to offer the world the answer for mutual submission like the Bible really teaches. They swing the pendulum too far to one side. So, without the support of conservatives, women react with 2nd, 3rd, 4th feminism waves that get more extreme by the wave and swing the pendulum too far the other way. Then the "manosphere" sets out to correct things by swinging the pendulum too far the other way again. It's all-out war between extremists, and like someone else commented, it's hard to point out where either extreme side is wrong without being accused of being on the other extreme side! We need consistent, courageous, majority voices ON CENTER, calling out both extremes.
Kaeley you're like the person left to clean up after a house has been vandalized. A bunch of supposed friends watch you, questioning whether the vandals might not be awesome people if we just gave them a chance. The work is hard, thankless, exhausting. But leaving it undone is unthinkable.
All I can see is holy shit! I did not realize all of this about him. Sadly, I’m not one bit surprised about what I see. His supporters are. Thank you for this information.
The Tate brothers are a profound insult to everything feminism has sought to achieve. Hence their popularity, which is a reflection of every way feminists have overplayed their hand. Both in denigrating the masculine and in ignoring or excusing a great deal of bad female behaviour.
In a situation where, if you criticise men it’s feminism and if you criticise women it’s misogyny, the Tate brothers are a gigantic raised finger. They provide nothing of value but the way they do so makes them, sadly, so much more thoroughly a raised finger.
I just started reading you NOW. I've read several posts and am inspired, amazed, and challenged by the way you plow headfirst into the darkness or disarray of the moment. You've educated me on these two brothers. I had a scratch-an-sniff awareness of them thru news headlines, and now I have enough knowledge to adequately throw-up. At one point you said: "...honestly, I still have to believe that the average conservative reader is completely appalled by the Tates’ behavior. I don’t think these men represent the average Republican voter...." When you say this, is there an unsaid point of concern that the Tate brothers could represent left-leaning Democratic voters? Honestly, so far, most of those who I have heard who are comfortable with the Tates are leading Republicans. I am not trying to be tricky...just wondering about the potential "us--them" application in this sickening scenario.
Thank you for the summary. Fortunately, until now, I've been able to avoid all but a cursory, passing awareness of "The Tate Brothers". Perhaps I could sense (smell?) where the story would lead had I clicked on a link, so thanks for saving me the trouble and for providing the summary. The filter you apply in your writing salways strikes a reasonable balance to my tainted eye. But back on "The Tate Brothers", meh. I've given them too much time writing this
I'm literally sick reading this. The deepest pit in the bowels of Hell is reserved for such men. Their supporters should be taking care not to get tossed on there with them.
These kind of men produce orphaned children who end up aborted, abandoned, and abused. The man who left me fatherless, was this kind of useless man.
God bless you.
Thanks for connecting some dots. I haven’t been paying attention,TBH. Tate is an abomination, and there is no excuse for any Christian to support a pimp like him. This is not complicated.
"Imagine what would happen if, instead of denouncing Harvey Weinstein, we saw leading pundits saying, “No, he’s just really misunderstood and persecuted. He’s really innocent. He’s being targeted because the elite don’t like the truth he speaks. Would we tolerate that on the right? Of course we wouldn’t. And honestly, I still have to believe that the average conservative reader is completely appalled by the Tates’ behavior."
Here's the thing...they had to know Weinstein WAS a scoundrel. It was an open secret in Hollywood, lefty media, and political circles. The Dems fawned all over him. Meryl Streep called him "basically God." All the major Dems like Hillary Clinton and the Obamas gushed over him too...I can't think they didn't know he was a monster.
What's WORSE though is that Tate is openly awful, it's NOT a secret of any sort, and it's the most mind-blowing thing to read ANY of those quotes that have emerged from his mouth and not think WTF? I think you're right about "normie" conservatives thinking he's a scumbag, but I'm beyond irritated because he says some things that scratches a certain itch conservatives have, they just choose to ignore or excuse the other stuff he says, all of which is abusive garbage.
Calling them scoundrels is an insult to real scoundrels.
touche. They are predators.
Amen. May God bring these two idiots and those giving oxygen to their viewpoints to true repentance.
God bless you for this take.
Thank you for this writing down into the bones of this, Kaely Triller. You put clear words to where many have been since tate-bro (so-far) legal immunity has been teflon-ing 'em. Feels like their flagrant defiance of pedophilia laws is another wheat-from-chaff / winnowing moment for all Christians, all people of good heartedness, all people whose souls are still alive. Another pull-back-the-curtain moment—if they're not nailed and jailed for their blatant pimp recruitment, then all the world's corrupt kings will be revealed as their accomplices. Seems the tatebros are Epstein spawn; online recruiters of the porn-sick.
I wonder if because the right also can lead to weird places that do not value women (some reformed spaces and other complementarian no woman lands etc.) there is a strange overlap? I agree with you that young men have been left in the cold…… what does the future hold?
YES! We're in a gender war. The "Reformed Theology" and "Complementarians" who say they represent God try to keep women "in their place," making the church weak to offer the world the answer for mutual submission like the Bible really teaches. They swing the pendulum too far to one side. So, without the support of conservatives, women react with 2nd, 3rd, 4th feminism waves that get more extreme by the wave and swing the pendulum too far the other way. Then the "manosphere" sets out to correct things by swinging the pendulum too far the other way again. It's all-out war between extremists, and like someone else commented, it's hard to point out where either extreme side is wrong without being accused of being on the other extreme side! We need consistent, courageous, majority voices ON CENTER, calling out both extremes.
Kaeley you're like the person left to clean up after a house has been vandalized. A bunch of supposed friends watch you, questioning whether the vandals might not be awesome people if we just gave them a chance. The work is hard, thankless, exhausting. But leaving it undone is unthinkable.
All I can see is holy shit! I did not realize all of this about him. Sadly, I’m not one bit surprised about what I see. His supporters are. Thank you for this information.
As one of the "blissfully sequestered," thank you for the update. I'd never heard of them.
Men like that deserve punishment of the worst kind, not admiration.
The Tate brothers are a profound insult to everything feminism has sought to achieve. Hence their popularity, which is a reflection of every way feminists have overplayed their hand. Both in denigrating the masculine and in ignoring or excusing a great deal of bad female behaviour.
In a situation where, if you criticise men it’s feminism and if you criticise women it’s misogyny, the Tate brothers are a gigantic raised finger. They provide nothing of value but the way they do so makes them, sadly, so much more thoroughly a raised finger.
These two pig motherfvckers need to be castrated by the women who they abuse.
Sorry. Not sorry.
Preach it..!
I just started reading you NOW. I've read several posts and am inspired, amazed, and challenged by the way you plow headfirst into the darkness or disarray of the moment. You've educated me on these two brothers. I had a scratch-an-sniff awareness of them thru news headlines, and now I have enough knowledge to adequately throw-up. At one point you said: "...honestly, I still have to believe that the average conservative reader is completely appalled by the Tates’ behavior. I don’t think these men represent the average Republican voter...." When you say this, is there an unsaid point of concern that the Tate brothers could represent left-leaning Democratic voters? Honestly, so far, most of those who I have heard who are comfortable with the Tates are leading Republicans. I am not trying to be tricky...just wondering about the potential "us--them" application in this sickening scenario.
I tried to read your article, but Ewwww.
Thank you for the summary. Fortunately, until now, I've been able to avoid all but a cursory, passing awareness of "The Tate Brothers". Perhaps I could sense (smell?) where the story would lead had I clicked on a link, so thanks for saving me the trouble and for providing the summary. The filter you apply in your writing salways strikes a reasonable balance to my tainted eye. But back on "The Tate Brothers", meh. I've given them too much time writing this
I'm literally sick reading this. The deepest pit in the bowels of Hell is reserved for such men. Their supporters should be taking care not to get tossed on there with them.